Memo to everyone, I hate this environmentalist charade that seems to be popular with everyone right now
In case you didnt pay attention today, Apple withdrew from the Chamber of Commerce over their stance on global warming, namely because they feel the Chamber of Commerce isnt doing enough about it, Now Greenpeace praised them, and now Green people everywhere are bitching, screaming, yelling or praising about it
One perspective? Apple makes things in China, China =/= good for the environment, And this is true, Hell go look at some pictures of their big cities, you cant see a foot in front of you because of the smog, people wear masks there for a reason, The air is -not- pleasant...Any clean images you find are most likely manufactured propaganda, Remember, China is not a free country, They control the media

Then you start getting into the bitching war about global warming, blah blah blah, yeh yeh, we know, you drank Al Gore's kool aid and now you think you know everything, Shove it, Humans around the world contribute 13% to total greenhouse gas emissions, CO2 controls are thus pretty much useless because they'll make little difference, Methane is worse for the enviroment, and Methane is produced by every living creature as a product of biological decomposition [its also in fecal matter and farts for the record]
So you wanna be green? DONT DIE, Fart, or crap ever again

[Although i will state many sewage treatment stations actually take and trap the methane gas and utilize it to power themselves, They can actually almost self-sustain this way and use very little outside power...Thats actually quite "green"]
Then of course someone brings the mortgage crisis, banks, Ford, GM, Obama, and Bush into things, No clue what any of it really has to do with any of this discussion about the environment..
Which is my main complaint, Being environmental thinking is one thing, Then theres being a Communist Brainwashed Californian Environmental Douchebag, Eventually when you bring up environmentalism, someone starts preaching about "DE GUBBERMENTS IS DEWINS IT" or how its all the problem of "BIG CORPORATE GREED" [Which maybe while partially true, is also partially bullshit because a lot of these environmentalists praise companies like Toyota who are equally corporately corrupt..] then complain about money money money and how "its wrong to think of money" when the truth is,
its easy to not think of how much something costs when you're likely an upper-middle-class dipshit with more than six figures in the bank, Because you don't live in the real world where people don't make 6 digit incomes, where people don't have the money to blow on some impractical $40,000 car and where you're constantly worried your job might not be there tomarrowAnd then Michael Moore or Al Gore will get introduced..And then the monkeys start throwing shit at each other...
And this is why i just stay the fuck out of the discussion...Because in the end, it always gets sidetracked and someone starts preaching Communism..or something else..And it just gets stupid
BTW if this is a little disjointed, I've been ill for the last few weeks, My head isnt entirely there when it comes to writing..so forgive me